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Art is our goal, science is our method, honesty is our spirit. Dressage riders (both competitive & baroque), English & Western riders, N.H. adepts, jumpers & eventers, we all have the same training problems to resolve, even if they seem to appear in different forms and are expressed in different 'languages'. All serious students of the art of training can benefit from each other's experiences and learn to respect each other's contributions outside of a 'clique spirit' within this open minded forum created by JP Giacomini.